Larry Rosen — mediator, human motivation expert, and founder of The Enemies Project — joins Dr. Dan to explore what it really takes to bridge political and ideological divides. From his journey through law and the discovery of Nonviolent Communication, to building a viral YouTube series where sworn enemies spend a day learning to truly listen to each other, Larry reveals why we're more alike than we've been led to believe — and who benefits from keeping us apart.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
Why chasing money without meaning leaves even the most successful people empty
How Nonviolent Communication unlocks the "math of the mind" behind all human motivation
Why people on opposite sides of every issue share the same core best and worst experiences
What happens neurologically when we feel threatened — and why empathy literally shuts down
How "enemy makers" in media and politics exploit this brain response to keep us divided
The three-phase vision for The Enemies Project to scale from YouTube to high schools to mass cultural impact
LEARN MORE
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January 8, 2026
Larry Rosen
From Enemies to Understanding: Healing Division Through Human Connection
“The biggest lie is that ordinary people on the other side are evil.”
TIMESTAMPS
00:18 – From law school to mediation: the search for meaning over money
07:30 – Discovering Nonviolent Communication and the "math of the mind"
14:20 – The inception of The Enemies Project: a mission to heal the next generation
22:49 – Inside the episodes: Kevin & Afini, Holly & Dakota, and the power of being heard
28:38 – Shared humanity: why enemies almost always share the same best and worst experiences
38:24 – The neuroscience of threat: how empathy shuts down and why we call people evil
47:19 – Enemy makers, the big lie, and how political division is manufactured
56:23 – The three-phase vision and where to find The Enemies Project
SHOW NOTES
Welcome to 2026 and all new episodes of Make It a Great One! Today, Dr. Dan sits down with Larry Rosen, creator of The Enemies Project, to explore why conflict has become so entrenched in our culture—and how genuine listening can begin to heal it.
During his conversation with Dr. Dan, Larry shares his personal journey from law to mediation to ultimately creating a global project that brings people labeled as “enemies” into the same room for honest, day-long conversations. Drawing from psychology, neuroscience, and decades of experience working with people in deep conflict, Larry Rosen explains why arguments fail, empathy shuts down under threat, and how understanding—not persuasion—is the fastest path to transformation.
Together, Dr. Dan and Larry unpack the mechanisms behind polarization, the role of fear and perceived threat, and how “enemy-making” erodes our ability to cooperate as families, communities, and societies. Through stories from The Enemies Project, they reveal how people with radically opposing views often share the same core motivations: safety, belonging, love, and meaning.
LINKS & RESOURCES
Larry Rosen & The Enemies Project
The Enemies Project Website (newsletter, educational materials, donations)
Nonviolent Communication & Human Motivation
Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg — foundational framework for human needs and conflict resolution
Carl Rogers — humanistic psychology and the roots of empathetic listening
Abraham Maslow — hierarchy of needs (referenced critically; Larry notes its limits)
Conflict Resolution & Political Polarization
Larry Rosen's TEDx Talk (2017)
The Enemies Project Newsletter — sign up via the website
Neuroscience & Empathy
Research on threat response and empathy shutdown — referenced throughout; Larry draws on neuroscience literature on the amygdala and defensive states
Recommended Viewing (Episodes of The Enemies Project mentioned)
Kevin & Afini — law enforcement officer vs. protest activist (described as an ideal first episode)
Holly & Dakota — gun control advocate vs. gun rights advocate
Trans rights episode — referenced as "off the charts" powerful
GUEST BIO
Larry Rosen is the founder of The Enemies Project, a YouTube series that brings people with deeply opposing political views together for courageous, human-centered conversations. Drawing on decades as a mediator and his deep study of human motivation, Larry has developed a framework for helping people move beyond polarization toward genuine empathy and understanding.
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