
Raj Sisodia — co-founder of Conscious Capitalism and author of 16 books — joins Dr. Dan for a deeply moving conversation about healing, wholeness, and what it means to lead from the soul. From his awakening while writing Firms of Endearment (when he cried for the first time in 20 years) to his transformative healing journey at age 60 in the Himalayas, Amazon rainforest, and a silent retreat where the seven steps of this book were "downloaded" from source, Raj shares how business can be an expression of love — and why healing ourselves is the foundation for healing organizations and the world.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
The four pillars of Conscious Capitalism: higher purpose, stakeholder mindset, conscious leadership, and caring culture
Why most of us are "physically free but mentally confined" — and how business trapped us in the homo economicus paradigm
The seven steps to healing (Know yourself, Love yourself, Be yourself, Choose yourself, Express yourself, Complete yourself, Heal yourself)
How Raj's mother (pure feminine energy, never raised her voice in 62 years) and father (hyper-masculine warrior caste energy) shaped his journey
Why the first 45 years of Raj's life were spent trying to impress his father, and the last 15+ years honoring his mother through conscious leadership work
The four energies we all need to integrate: masculine, feminine, elder (wise), and child (playful) — to become "the wise fool of tough love"
Why 80-90% of people don't love themselves — and how this leads to obesity, diabetes, and lifestyle diseases
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January 29, 2026
Raj Sisodia
Conscious Leadership: How Purpose, Compassion, and Self-Awareness Can Change The World
"Everybody is somebody's precious child. And why wouldn't they be worthy of love and care just like your own child?"
TIMESTAMPS
04:37 – Firms of Endearment: the turning point when Raj cried for the first time in 20 years while writing business stories
09:36 – Age 60: Four women stop him and ask, "What about YOUR healing?" — delaying the book to take a five-month healing journey
11:16 – The Himalayas, silent retreat, Amazon rainforest: Where the seven steps were downloaded from source
17:27 – Growing up in India's warrior caste: A hyper-patriarchal culture and polar opposite parents
20:02 – The trauma: When Raj's father pointed a gun at him over his choice to marry (disassociated amnesia)
21:17 – The coach's reframe: 45 years impressing father, 15 years honoring mother through conscious capitalism
25:24 – The four energies: Integrating masculine, feminine, elder, and child to become "the wise fool of tough love"
28:26 – The seven steps: Know, Love, Be, Choose, Express, Complete, Heal yourself (a leadership book unlike any other)
SHOW NOTES
Today on Make It A Great One, Dr. Dan interviews Raj Sisodia, global thought leader, bestselling author, and co-founder of Conscious Capitalism, to explore the inner work required to live and lead with purpose, integrity, and humanity. Raj also introduces the seven steps outlined in his newest book Healing Leaders which teaches us that leadership begins with knowing, loving, and healing oneself.
Raj shares the pivotal moments that reshaped his life and leadership—from questioning profit-only business models to confronting unhealed personal trauma that lingered beneath decades of professional success. He opens up about his own healing journey, the influence of his parents, and the realization that leadership without self-awareness inevitably causes harm.
Together, Dr. Dan and Raj unpack what it truly means to be a conscious leader—someone willing to integrate head, heart, and soul; masculine and feminine energy; wisdom and playfulness because conscious leaders create ripple effects that impact families, communities, and future generations.
LINKS & RESOURCES
Raj Sisodia
Website — rajsisodia.com (dedicated page for Healing Leaders and all books)
Conscious Capitalism — link available through website
Books by Raj Sisodia
Healing Leaders: Seven Steps to Recovery of Self — Raj Sisodia & Nalima Bhatt (releasing February 2025)
Awaken: The Path to Purpose, Inner Peace, and Healing — Raj Sisodia's memoir
The Healing Organization — co-authored
Everybody Matters — Raj Sisodia & Bob Chapman (10-year anniversary edition republished)
Conscious Capitalism — co-authored with John Mackey
Firms of Endearment — the turning point book
Shakti Leadership — on masculine-feminine integration in leadership
The Seven Steps of Healing Leaders
Know yourself
Love yourself
Be yourself
Choose yourself
Express yourself
Complete yourself
Heal yourself
The Four Pillars of Conscious Capitalism
GUEST BIO
Raj Sisodia is co-founder and chairman emeritus of Conscious Capitalism Inc. and the world's leading authority on conscious capitalism and conscious leadership. He holds a PhD from Columbia University and has authored or co-authored 16 books, including Conscious Capitalism, Firms of Endearment, Everybody Matters, The Healing Organization, Awaken, and Healing Leaders (co-authored with Nalima Bhatt). Raj has delivered over 1,000 keynotes worldwide, including at the White House, the United Nations, and the Vatican. His work integrates purpose, inner peace, and healing into leadership and business
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